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the sights. it is a bit overcast but this is a sunnier disposition i have seen them have all week. i am don lemon. cnn newsroom starts now. welcome to the newsroom, everyone. live in boston where there's finally relief after the last suspect in the boston marathon terror attack was arrested in dramatic capture. you saw it last night. it is what we all wanted to know since that horrible moment monday afternoon, police now say it looks like the two boston marathon bombing suspects acted alone, that's what they believe at this point in the investigation. the investigation is still in high gear, with four dead, almost 200 injured, the final moments of the capture will be in people's memories for some
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time to come. [ gunfire ] a hail of bullets rang out as the last suspect, 19-year-old dzhokhar tsarnaev held off police in a watertown, massachusetts neighborhood in a backyard last night. we learned from university of massachusetts dartmouth officials, he was on campus every day until thursday, attending classes, parties in dorms during that period. now he is in custody in a boston hospital under heavy guard. we are also remembering four people who were killed, three at the marathon monday and the m.i.t. officer killed during a shootout with the two suspects. with the hunt over for the suspects, we are focusing on the full puzzle on cnn. how is it two brothers described by many as normal are suspected of horrific terrorist bombings. want to head to cnn's susan
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candiotti at the center of it all in watertown, massachusetts. so what has the watertown police chief been saying about the investigation and last night's take down, susan? >> reporter: hi, don. we are getting more details from the chief about what happened and just to show you that things are still happening out here, we can show you still have the crime scene tape up here. the house that we're talking about is way at the end of the street. behind that house is the boat where all of the high drama unfolded. remember, there's a boat back there. at this hour, they're looking for remnants of ammunition left behind, any explosives that might be there, any belongings the suspect may have left there. we don't know how long authorities will be here. we know this. it was a dramatic scene as i indicated last night as police converged on the scene. they didn't find him after looking all day. it was when a man was behind his house taking a walk when he noticed blood on the tarp
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covering the boat and called authorities. they came out. but first sent overhead thermal imaging equipment inside a state police helicopter to determine, in fact, there appeared to be somebody there. they had a robot come up, lift up the tarp, saw he was there, converged on the scene, telling him come out on your own terms, but they were very worried as they approached that he still might have some bombs on his body. here is what the chief told cnn's wolf blitzer. >> that was our major concern. that's why no one wanted to go near him until we could get him to understand we needed him to lift his shirt up to see his chest where we felt comfortable to send some people in to take him into custody. >> you did do that. >> eventually, over a long period of time, 20 to 30 minutes, finally got him to do that. >> had no explosives in the boat? >> on his person. haven't gotten into the boat, it is a decent sized boat, don't
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know what else is in there. >> reporter: the question among many of them, what will this man be charged with, the suspect in this case, dzhokhar tsarnaev. we know at this hour according to a justice department official, prosecutors are working on the charges. it is possible we might get some filed as soon as today. we don't know the answer to that just yet, but there's a lot yet to learn about the case, that's for sure, don. >> susan, before you move on, i want to know about possible arraignment for the suspect. he's obviously in the hospital, very serious condition. what about arraignment? >> reporter: that's right. well, of course, because he is not in a situation where he can easily face a judge at this time, we don't even know for sure and it is a good question whether he is able to cooperate because we know he is in serious condition and that's all we know. if he is talking with them, they
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still have to work out, the prosecutors, what he will be charged with, before they can think about arraignment, so it is one step at a time. certainly the court would be here in boston, that's where he would face an initial appearance and all of that has yet to be worked out. don? >> all right, susan candiotti in watertown, massachusetts. thank you. we heard a bit from the watertown police chief. here is more of his conversation with wolf blitzer about how the take down happened. take a listen. >> we had a couple thousand police officers on scene, the turnout was incredible, from the state and region. we had the tactical people to close down the scene and secure it. we did take our time to be sure that everybody was safe in the neighborhood. eventually we had to use flash bangs to render the subject -- >> tell us what a flash bang is. >> it is a loud compression that would stun somebody a short period of time.
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we began negotiations slowly over 15, 20 minute period, we were able to get him to stand up and show us that he didn't have a device on him. >> so he's lying in this boat, been there several hours. he is wounded clearly, right, he's bleeding. >> right. >> he is obviously weak. you come over there, what do you say to him? you have a bull horn, say come out with your hand up? >> we had a negotiator, it was on the second floor of the house looking down at the boat. >> you could see it. >> no, we couldn't see it, there was a plastic top over them. we had the state police helicopter that could tell us when there was movement in the boat by the heat sensor. we could tell he was alive and moving. we could begin negotiations that way. over a long period of time, we were able to finally get him to surrender. >> and right now, there's a heavy police presence inside boston's beth israel deaconess medical center.
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that's where he is recovering after being seriously injured. want to head to elizabeth cohen, standing outside the hospital. elizabeth, federal prosecutors are inside. could the suspect be charged as early as today? >> you know, i think today might be unlikely, but an official from the justice department did tell our colleague pamela brown that there could be charges brought before he leaves the hospital. he is in serious condition, which means that, you know, he's still got a ways to go. so he could be here for a little while. don? >> how does the hospital handle security for someone like this? i would imagine there's incredible presence there, elizabeth? >> oh, there certainly is, there's certainly a police presence here, and i was speaking with a physician who frequently treats suspects and inmates. he worked in a different city. he said he wouldn't be surprised if the suspect here were handcuffed to the bed and had a guard on each side of the bed as
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well as guards outside the door. they really are not taking any chances. they don't want anyone coming in and out who doesn't need to be there, and certainly don't want the suspect to hurt himself. don? >> and elizabeth, you know, inside that hospital, it is right behind you, doctors and nurses have to take care of this man believed to have committed these terrible acts. how do they handle this responsibility? have you spoken to anyone who has spoken about that? >> reporter: yes, i've spoke tone doctors and nurses, not who have taken care of the suspect in the hospital behind me but have taken care of other suspects or convicted criminals. they say they're human beings, it is tough, they know what this person has done and they feel it, but they set it aside, do their job and give him the same high level of care that they would give any other patient. this is a world class hospital. i've had many relatives treated in this hospital. one thing he might not get, i know doctors and nurses here are very sympathetic, very caring
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people, they will speak comforting words to you as they do procedures or give you a hug afterwards, i doubt that's happening, according to doctors and nurses i talked to that have been in this situation before, but as far as medical care goes, he's getting the highest level of care, exactly what they would give anyone. don? >> elizabeth cohen there with the suspect at deaconess hospital in boston. thank you. finding the secrets to a terror cell, we will look at what is involved tracing and rooting out a network of terror, plus this, what could turn someone into a suspected terrorist. the uncle of the boston bombing suspects speaks out. welcnew york state, where cutting taxes for families and businesses is our business. we've reduced taxes and lowered costs to save businesses more than two billion dollars to grow jobs, cut middle class income taxes to the lowest rate in sixty years, and we're creating tax free zones for business startups.
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we showed you this at the top of the hour, fenway park. this is one of the most visible signs that boston is beginning
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to heal. right now, fenway park is alive with red sox fans cheering on their home team and their hometown. the world is cheering on boston and the red sox. poppy harlow joins me live at the ballpark. poppy, would i want to be the team that beats boston now? >> reporter: i do not think you would, don. all is fair in love and war in professional sports i suppose, but i don't know, this is a city, a country rooting for the boston red sox. this is the first home game since the bombing at the monday marathon. they have a tradition of having a morning home game before the marathon on monday and then running the marathon. and it is this entire citywide celebration. this is the first time back at fenway. want to show you this poster. people walking in holding this, boston strong. and you see from the video all
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of the people extremely excited and proud to be bostonians. special ceremony before the game today. the entire crowd sang the national anthem together, in unis unison, showing how tight knit this community is now. and the red sox are wearing some special jerseys, special home whites. usually say red sox across the front. today they say boston across the front. they're going to auction those off after today. all that money is going to the one fund, which is raising money for victims of this tragedy. david ortiz, most famous player for the red sox saying this is our city, erupting in applause after he said that. then i want to dip into this sound some emotional sound and meaningful moment from the opening ceremony. they played hallelujah, everyone looked at the jumbo tron, saw
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images of the marathon, and of the first responders and others. let's listen in. ♪ ♪ hallelujah, hallelujah >> just a beautiful moment there, don. the teams lined the field, they brought on first responders and victims from the bombing. so a very important day here for bostonians in terms of the healing process. >> okay. poppy, you and i are friends, you're like me, you will talk to anyone that will talk to you. i'm sure you have been talking to fans. what are they saying? >> reporter: we have been talking to some people.
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something meaningful i want to bring to the viewers, something a fan said to john berman earlier, he was here before the game started, he is from boston. he met this woman who is not only a big red sox fan but she's from watertown. so literally yesterday she was under lockdown basically in her house in watertown. today she's here going to see her team play, the red sox play. here is what she told john. >> surreal experience. it was like this morning i woke up, it was like i am so grateful i don't have to wake up feeling like i felt yesterday morning every day, like i felt totally lucky to be, you know, a resident of watertown, a citizen of this country. >> reporter: and look, don, wanted to bring over a fan. what's your name? >> lisa. >> reporter: she stopped by, was looking at us, her friend said she's from watertown as well. sorry for what you went through, this is a big day for you. >> yes, it is.
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>> big day for boston and you. >> thank you so much. >> i am a twins fan, but today i am a red sox fan, don. >> as i said, we're all red sox fans. poppy, give out a lot of hugs from us at cnn. thank you, we will get back to the story. one suspect is dead, one in custody. what's not clear, the motive and plan. i am joined by jeff beatty, former cia counter terrorism officer. we are hearing from local law enforcement that looks like the suspects were working alone. and that came from watertown police chief. he knows a lot of information, but can we say that at this point? >> congratulations to him and his officers, fantastic job, textbook job really. that's certainly the hope of everyone that they were operating alone, but i know that the fbi and others are concerned about the other explosives, for example, that were found in the apartment of the two brothers. >> how do you account for those, for the pressure cooker, the other weapons and all that
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stuff. >> exactly. it begs the question were they planning additional attacks? the third pressure cooker bomb they used in the pursuit, was that supposed to be deployed by a third person the day of the marathon? these are unanswered questions that i know law enforcement is working hard to try to resolve. >> could profiling have made a difference in this case? how do you determine if they were part of a larger cell? >> profiling is kind of a bad word, we don't like profiling. >> but you have profilers. >> we have people that do profiling. one of the things i think that would help, we have the ability to do behavioral observation. we have behavioral -- alerting behavior. for instance, if we were going to boston marathon, we were friends or brothers, we would be walking side by side talking to each other about it. yet the individuals on race day were one to five feet apart, unusual, there are people the cameras would have picked up,
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seeing them walk. this is alerting behavior. we have al goe rhythms, someone goes to the parking lot and somebody were to acost them, that would let police get to them. i think you'll see that for future events. >> where are we focusing counter terrorism resources? >> i think we're focusing in looking at prevention, doing a hard look, how could we make sure an event like this doesn't happen again at one of our major sporting events. you know, we have an ability to do some things, all the way back at planning stages when terrorists plan attacks. national security agency can monitor them. we have a great capability to monitor electronic communications. so great that osama bin laden didn't want to have an internet connection in his house, he was that respectful of it. nsa will look at what can they do to find things in the ether that may give indications of
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people casing remotely from internet searches, potential targets, finding out how do they build their weapons, et cetera. i think the nsa will lead that on the prevention side. >> great information. thank you, jeff beatty. we are going to talk about finding answers after the boston bombings. what do you say when your nephews are called terrorists? we will hear from the suspect's uncle straight ahead on cnn. when our little girl was born, we got a subaru. it's where she said her first word. (little girl) no! saw her first day of school. (little girl) bye bye! made a best friend forever. the back seat of my subaru is where she grew up. what? (announcer) designed for your most precious cargo. (girl) what? (announcer) the all-new subaru forester. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru.
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welcome back to our continuing coverage. we are now hearing more from the bombing suspect's uncle. he said that tamerlan and dzhokhar brought shame to their
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community. let's go where ruslan tsarni lives. he called them losers earlier, what is he saying now. >> he used that word yesterday and wouldn't go that far today, but it has equally strong reactions to their actions, anger, tears. i sat down with him earlier today. my first question, what's his reaction to his nephew being caught. take a listen. >> i am relieved. i am relieved that he is alive, first of all, for that there's now chance to find out who was behind it, who were mentors of all of it, and how possibly could he get involved and do this harm to innocent people. and second of all, i stress that
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there's a chance for jihad and to seek forgiveness. >> don, we should stress the uncle wasn't especially close with the family. he says he had not seen his nephews since around 2006 and had mostly cut ties with the family in 2009. that year he also had a conversation with the older nephew, tamerlan. the uncle said back then he noticed his nephew was becoming more extreme in his religious views and when he tried to find out why, the uncle said he reached out to a family friend and that friend told him about a person, a friend, to the family in cambridge, a new convert to islam, and who quote brainwashed tamerlan. i pressed him for a name, he wouldn't reveal one. meanwhile, the uncle said the older brother exerted heavy influence on dzhokhar. >> he used his younger brother, he wasted his life. i understand he didn't know --
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he messed up his own. i don't know what was going on there, but he messed up his life. that's why he decided to take lives of innocent people, hurt innocent people. i may believe he is full of evil, maybe he has been himself as evil, he turned to be an evil. as i said, confused, entirely confused. >> now, what was tamerlan like before this alleged turn to what the uncle called evil? i asked what's your last memory of your oldest nephew, and don, that's when we saw the most emotional part of our interview. >> tamerlan and me walking, walking on massachusetts avenue. starbucks.
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i am telling him about my business. he is asking me questions. young, beautiful. tall. i was even happy for his height. this humor, sense of humor, love it. kids going by, saying hey, tamerlan. that was 2006. >> don, that's the story from what the uncle was saying when he saw tamerlan in 2009. a few other points, i asked the uncle what's your message to dzhokhar right now, he said tell police everything you know, also dzhokhar will undoubtedly need plenty of help moving forward, will the uncle help his nephew if he's asked? the uncle said yes, he would help him seek forgiveness from the victims. don? >> the uncle, very emotional in that interview. thank you very much, shannon
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welcome back to continuing coverage of the boston bombings. i am don lemon live in boston. the terror is over for now, after days of tragedy and anxiety, this city can finally begin to heal. one suspect is dead, the other is under police guard in serious condition in a boston hospital. we are told charges could be filed against dzhokhar tsarnaev any time. let's take a moment to get you caught up on other stories making news this hour on cnn. first up, so many questions for the town of west, texas. search and recovery efforts are winding down today after a massive fertilizer plant
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explosion on went. 14 bodies have been recovered. five of those killed were volunteer firefighters. people are still waiting to get the all clear to get back into their homes. rising water and rising fears in parts of the flooded midwest after days of torrential rain. rivers are spilling over their banks in illinois, missouri and also in michigan. hundreds of people evacuated across the region and forecasters say the worst isn't over yet. another storm system is expected to slam the midwest late monday into tuesday. london is gearing up for its own major marathon, just six days after the bombings at the boston marathon. security will be very tight tomorrow. police say several hundred additional officers will be on hand. more than 37,000 people are expected to take part in sunday's race. and back here in boston, it is beginning to return to normal.
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we can really get a sense of that at fenway where the red sox are back in action right now. but before the first pitch, there was a solemn ceremony. going to get back to poppy harlow at the ballpark. poppy, what are you seeing? >> reporter: hey there, don, the sun came out just in time for the game. as you know, it was raining hard this morning, then came out. fans poured into fenway stadium. you can see them lined up even there, looking at the game against the royals goes on. i think even some royals fans may be boston red sox fans today, a very important day. it is the first home game at fenway park since the bombing on monday. very significant that this is happening today. you know, both teams lined onto the field today and had a very big, special opening ceremony. some victims of the bombing, first responders there on the field. people walked in with signs like
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this. boston strong, all different sorts of homemade signs. the team was tweeting out pictures of all of the different signs and don, i just want to tell you one thing that they did was a moment of silence. i think we have a little to play for you now. a moment of silence before the game kicked off to remember the tragedy that hit the city. >> as we think of our 176 adults and children who were injured, including mbta officer richard donahue, won't you join us as we observe a moment of silence, contemplation, and prayer and in particular for the 58 who are still hospitalized. >> reporter: and the team, don, not wearing typical jerseys, donning special home whites that say boston instead of red sox.
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after the game they're going to auction them off, donate all of the money to one fund, that of course for the victims of the bombing. don? >> poppy harlow at the red sox game in a red coat, thank you very much. we talked a lot about the suspects, we have, but what about the victims here. coming up, dr. drew will join us to tell us what we can do to heal. how we can help our family and friends and children with their uneasiness over what happened this week in boston. our special live coverage continues here on cnn in just a moment. i'm telling you right now, the girl back at home would absolutely not have taken a zip line in the jungle. (screams) i'm really glad that girl stayed at home. vo: expedia helps 30 million travelers a month find what they're looking for. one traveler at a time. expedia. find yours.
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answers. one thing we do know is that whatever hateful agenda drove these men to such heinous acts will not, cannot prevail. whatever they thought they could ultimately achieve, they've already failed. they failed because the people of boston refused to be intimidated. they failed because as americans we refuse to be terrorized. they failed because we will not waiver from the character and compassion and values that define us as a country. nor will we break the bonds that hold us together as americans. >> president obama speaking from the white house about what holds us together in trying times such as this this week here in boston. and you can never tell just how much emotional pain has been inflicted here. that's true not only for the victims but for the people that watched it up close as well as those that saw the images on
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their television sets or on the web all across this country. what needs to be done to help heal this country. i want to bring in dr. drew pinsky. thank you so much. i think not just the folks in boston but the entire country need healing now. what can you say to family members, to friends, to children, to people who are watching about their uneasiness of what happened this week here in boston. >> yeah, don, the opening of the previous segment you started saying the terror is over, but for some it is not, it is reviv fied and being relived in their body every day. an important way to make this have a lesser impact on all of us, i am sure everyone feels this way. we had tremendous tension yesterday, all of us glued to televisions, today on the other side can feel let down, depressed, anxious. here are my basic tips. have a concept of faith, whatever that is for you, faith
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that the sun will come up in the morning, faith that things will be okay. don't try to control your environment, that is not going to work, whether you have a higher power concept, prayer can be helpful, faith number one. number two, hope, do not lose hope. this is going to get better, we are taking care of things as the president assured he would and there's hope for the future. finally and most importantly, important relationships, important people in our lives need to be kept close and think in terms of regulating our emotions by using other people. proximity and intimacy of others is exceedingly important at times like this. >> dr. drew, what you're saying there, the two things that are intangible, faith, believing in things unseen, hope, hoping the sun will be out tomorrow, and also relationships with other people. times like this, even for myself, sometimes when you're overwhelmed with issues like this, the last thing you want to
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do is be with someone else, you want to be by yourself and get through the emotion on your own. >> right. it's -- i would resist isolating. to sit and be calm and be sort and be calm with nature is fine but to isolate from people is usually not an idea. trying to go from acute stress reaction or prevent acute stress reaction which is normal, we may feel anxious or depressed to post traumatic stress disorder. duration of exposure to trauma, proximity to trauma, history of previous trauma all can add up to trouble. assess what you have been exposed to, and maybe if things don't seem right, be sure to get medical help. this can significantly reduce risk of this being an on-going, chronic problem. the other thing, too, try to return to normalcy and ritual. the red sox game a beautiful and
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perfect way to do so, although don, poppy needs to tell us how the sox are doing, i didn't hear the score, it kind of frightened me. >> we will get to that, dr. drew, don't worry. we will get that score for you. stick around. dr. drew, when we come back, i want to talk to you about this. the suspect's family has been making a plea for privacy. do they deserve that? dr. drew weighs in on their pain after a break. live in boston, this is cnn. frds .
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welcome back to cnn's continuing coverage of the boston bombings. dr. drew is back with us from los angeles. so doc, i want to talk about the family of the suspects. they're not responsible, at least physically, they didn't go out and create the bombs, but you know, can they become the target of angry citizens? how do they cope with their lives when everyone is looking at them with contempt? >> well, that's a really interesting question, especially in this day of social media where i'm sure if they so much as glance at it, they'll see horrible things being said. again, people seem to feel entitled to act out on other people, whatever their anger might be. i would urge restraint. these people seem to have nothing to do with this. they are as angry and outraged as the rest of us, except they have to manage, this uncle seeing alongside me, has to
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manage another emotion the rest of us do not and that is profound shame. he is shame and second guessing himself, could i have done something. he was in proximity to the kids. i think particularly this uncle needs more our sympathy than our aggression. the aunt, i have to say, have to say, taking on unpopular opinion. for her to throw, for sure i am with her on due process, but then to throw out paranoid, bizarre allegations, think how that feels to the victims. i have no patience with that myself. so i am thankful she hopefully will not get in the cross hairs of anybody, but that's ridiculous. >> i want to ask you this because, you know, it is immediately, i said it when i introduced you, my question to you, that the parents are not responsible, the family is not responsible. so one of the guys is 19, the other 26. how much responsibility do parents have? listen, i don't have kids because i think they're your kids until 20s, 30s, 40 years old, they're still kids, you have some responsibility for them. how much do parents and family
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have responsibility for any of this? physically obviously they didn't do it, but they raised these kids. >> yeah. don, here is my sort of take on that. families do have a responsibility to the individuals. i see this through the perspective of health care. and the problem is the families sometimes don't know anything. they are as blinded to what's going on as anybody else. you can't hold somebody accountable for that. on the other hand, the reality is more often than not they do know something, they have been advised to get help, and they don't. and that's really where i blame people. jodi arias, sick girl, borderline personality disorder you hear in the courtroom on a daily basis, she should have gotten treatment years before this. family knew she was in trouble, friends called the family, asked for help. they didn't insist she get help. it is harder when it is an adult child, but there are ways to do it. >> yeah. i can't imagine at 19 years old,
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listen, my parents not knowing that i was making bombs. they knew everything about me, where the car was, what i had in my room, even at 19 years old away at college. i don't know. it is a hard thing to accept and understand. dr. drew, thank you very much. good to see you. this is the first time people have suddenly found themselves in the middle of a tragedy. lessons for boston and beyond from a survivor of the virginia tech shooting massacre using smart phone technology to alert the authorities.
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cell phone photos and videos played a crucial role in helping hunt down the suspects in the boston bombings. a survivor in virginia tech shootings said she didn't have a smartphone at the time so she's creating technology today she wishes she had back then. laurie segall has the story for you. >> i'm one of the survivors from virginia tech shooting which happened six years ago. and a gunman killed 32 people. >> reporter: in room 211, two thirds of her classmates gunned down. six survived. christina anderson lived. >> within 12 minutes, he killed 11 of my classmates and my teacher. so we did not know that the first shooting had happened at about 7:05 that morning. there was a delay in virginia didn't notify the campus, which at the time there was no press department for a second
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shooting, so really no good information. i didn't have a smartphone at the time. >> so you didn't know if you were going to survive. i can't imagine that. >> yeah, it's hard. it's having those seconds of time when it's life and death that you start to realize that life is so precious and valuable and should be treasured. so i think it would almost be like a travesty to survive this whole event and not do something about it for everyone else. he shot me twice in the back and once in the foot. >> reporter: injured, but inspired. years later, in a smartphone connected world, anderson is building the technology she wishes she'd had during the horrific day that changed her life. >> this is the important incident feature. >> reporter: live safe lets people report incidents to law enforcement or campus authority in a couple tabs. students are already testing it on college campuses. >> so the police side, they see directly who the person is who submitted it and they receive their contact information, their
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picture, and also the gps coordinates in real time. >> reporter: live safe also lets users send out an alert to emergency contacts in a swipe. >> and when you slide to alert, it sends them your gps coordinates. >> reporter: it makes it easy to collect evidence and send safety alerts. a tech that could have helped anderson on that day six years ago. >> if live safe had listed and people had actually used it, i would have received a lot more information from people that were already there and might not have gone to campus, police would have had a broader wealth of pictures and video coming in beforehand. sometimes violence just finds you. that's a truth. but to know there is something you can do to make yourself safer, it's a step in the right direction. >> all right. well, we're not done with you yet. how would this app have helped in the moments after the boston
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blast and the m.i.t. shooting? all rig >> reporter: the second the bombs went off, everybody was looking for everybody else. using that app, could you have swiped it, it would have sent your gchlt.ps coordinates and c you have received an sms to say here are the safe places to go. i wish tech didn't have to exist, but as we can see, it's more relevant now than ever. >> all right. lori seeing loaurie segall, thank you very much. jake tapper will be back with us at the top of the hour and he'll pick up our special live coverage of the boston bombings. i'll be back with you later tonight. i'm don lemon. stay with cnn. [ female announcer ] the only patch for the treatment
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brand new pictures from last night's capture in boston. i'm jake tapper and this is the lead. breaking news. a fresh vantage point on the manhunt for dzhokhar tsarnaev. this is how they knew where he was and that he was still alive. police releasing thermal imaging photos. the older suspect, tamerlan, killed in a shoot-out with police. the fbi got a heads up that he splay been up to something two years ago. yet they uncovered nothing. was the ball dropped? and life here can't get back to normal until red sox nation gets to sing "sweet caroline" together once again at fenway. boston's team taking the field at home for the first time since the attack. good afternoon. "the lead" is coming to you live from boston for special live
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coverage of the capture of the surviving suspect in the marathon terrorist attacks. breaking news, police in just the last few moments have released incredible brand new images from the closing moments of the hunt for the most wanted man in the country. dzhokhar tsarnaev. these are from a massachusetts state police helicopter above the scene last night, thermal imaging clearly shows the body outline of the suspect cowering inside the boat dry dockeded in a watertown backyard. there are also images of the robot that police sent into peek under the boat's tarp. i want to bring in tom foreman to break the pictures down for us. explain to us what we're looking at. >> this is the first image that we have. this is a thermal imaging picture of the boat right here that was taken at about 19 minutes past 7:00. so 19 after the homeowner spotted blood here and said he saw someone inside here. you can't tell much from this.
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they're looking for heat signatures. might be something up in here, but you really can't tell. but this picture, look at this very clear sign here of a strong heat signature coming from in this area. as you think about the size of a boat, that's pretty big. they knew at this time he was moving around in the boat. so as you complain chur you cap there is trailing heat. so there is a sense he's moving inside the boat even though by now they're around the point where they have either had a gun battle him or about to have the gun battle with him. we move on and then we have these images which are also amazing of then extending a robotic arm in here, tearing away some of the fabric covering the boat. remember, a tear is what officially attracted the homeowner to pay attention because he was surprised to see a tear. they're tearing more away to try to get a better look inside and see where this fellow might be. and then you move forward to a different angle of the same thing. remember, this is a big boat. so even if it you're looking in here, a lot of room to go here.
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they believe in the gunfight here he was hit two more times, so they know they have to move with some speed because in fact he may be bleeding to death inside if you don't move quickly. and then this picture, jake, really the most stunning one absolutely of everyone worry seeing in will this new batch. you can see his feet, his body is extending, his head is somewhat up in here. it's possible we don't really know this. dark spots in here and he might have been forward in the boat. that may be just ambient heat. but it's clear if you look at this where he was. and this is at about 8:00. this is shortly before they step in and they basically have him stand up to show that he has no bombs on him, that he's not going to blow something up, and they take him away. at that point as you can see from his position here, they said he was essentially too weak to offer anymore resistance.
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amazing pictures, jake. >> amazing indeed. i now want to bring in barbara starr and tom fuentes on the phone. the military uses this kind much technology all the time. barbara, are you there? tom, if you're there, if you can react to the use of this thermal imaging technology. >> yes, the technology is called flare, forward looking infrared, usually mount order helicopters because they ccan hover. and you get a video feedback to the helicopter, forward whatever the command post is. so the commanders can actually watch that video live as it's being taken. the way that works is obviously
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the human body is wawarmer than air around him so it stands out. it's very common in law enforcement. that's why the state police have it on their helicopter. you would use it in fugitive searches, you would use it if you have missing children in the woods and you want to try to look down at night and try to be able to find them as they're walking around lost. so it's a commonly used technology. >> would the fbi and law enforcement be using this kind of technology throughout the week at night as they searched? i guess only the search really began thursday evening after they began looking for dzhokhar. but were they probably out there deployed looking with thermal image to go see if there were any unusual heat signatures? >> yeah, i noticed on the night of the shooting of the police officer at m.i.t. that you could
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see helicopters hovering in the air at that time. just depends. the human body is going to be warmer especially in the cooler night air. and the city lights down there, they might use equipment which takes the ambient light that's already there from street lights and traffic lights and amplifies it a little bit. so there are different technologies depending on the amount of available light at the scene and time of day that it is. >> and brash bra star, barbara starr, if it you're there, this is the kind of technology that military uses all the time. >> absolutely. it didn't get to the point of lee that himity at the end game.
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but this is how they track insurgents if they're laying d ieds, setting up an ambush, this is the classic way you look for this thermal image willing capabilities in their helicopters, zone in and conduct precision targeting against that insurgent. i think what tom said is critical. this is the kind of technology that is now with law enforcement but also with national guard forces across the country. if there is any benefit perhaps to 11 years of war, this kind of modern technology can now be used in communities across the country to help rescue people in disasters. it can be used to real benefit. the other thing the pentagon is really taken note of this week in the midst of all this tragedy, some of the lesson learned from combat trauma care, being able to deal with mass casualty trauma incidents, many doctors across the country now are looking at some of the experiences of the military. we know some of those lessons
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learned are things that have helped people in boston. >> all right. thank you very much. shockingly, this week was not the first time the fbi had heard of tamerlan tsarnaev. the fbi now admits that a foreign government, meaning russia or more specifically the russian fsb, the successor to the kgb, that that russian intelligence agency asked the fbi to check him out in 2011 warning that he was, quote, a follower of radical islam. and, quote, a strong believer and may have been planning to leave the u.s. to join an underground group in europe. the fbi even interviewed him in 2011, but say they found no related evidence. the fbi did not follow up after tamerlan tsarnaev returned from chechnya in 2012. it seems pretty evident that he
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was not watched closely enough. i want to bring in julia kayyem. and julia, the fbi, they might be the here rows of this operation right now, but they are going to have a lot of questions to answer about this. >> i think they will be fully prepared to do so. as you said, they are the heros in terms of how they captured them. but looking back is important for two reasons and the institution itself, the white house will look back and say what did we miss, how did we miss it, did we not take the russians seriously enough. or were there -- what we don't know is how many people were interviewed, over what period of time, was there any future survey listen. all of these questions will have to be answered not only because the american public will ask, but i think the administration will want to know what could we learn from this. and that's he what is also important. you look back not to blame or whatever else that may be an important part of this, buttal also how can we do better in the
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future. i don't want to say i fear, but this could happen again and we want to get better at stopping it from happening again. >> it happens a lot according to intelligence sources i've been speaking with all day, it happens a lot that other countries reach out and tell the u.s. about suspects they believe might be affiliated with al qaeda. what does that happen a lot according to intelligence sources is that russia does it. they do not often do this. and i've reached out to the white house today to get more of an explanation about why the fbi did not follow up with an interview with the older brother when he returned. and whether or not the white house feels like the fbi was on the case enough, the white house deferred comment, referred me to the fbi, the fbi did not answer questions. of course they are probably gathering all the evidence because they know that there are going to be a lot of questions about this. but i have to say, if i were a victim or if i knew a victim, i would be mad. >> right.
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i mean -- >> they knew about him. >> and what we don't know right now is who did the investigation. so there is all these different constructs of how you do it. the jttf, the fbi office here, and then there 1 tis the fbi in d.c.. was the information shared with local and state officials. this we still don't know, the september to sort of how far that interrogation of the older brother went. and so, yes, there was an interrogation of him. >> an interview. >> an interview. there wasn't a follow-up. that's what we know so far. and the fei clearly wants to get to this, as well, because they don't want to happen it again. i'll leave it to the congressmen to discuss what they will do with it. >> we'll have the congressman from the boston area. and we also don't know the requests that the russian fsb, whether they gave the u.s. a
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list of 1,000 people or whether it was a list of two. we're not really sure. >> that's right. our fbi is utilized and -- we don't know all data that will come out. was it a standard request. i say this with a lot of caveats because i've been this government a long time and looking back, you can say it's so obvious that he would have done this. because he did it. and sometimes when you put the pieces together at the moment, it doesn't makes a much sense. and that is what going back is about. it's not just, okay, blame, we don't like -- >> i understand. >> it's also about the future. and so there will be a lot to learn from this, both from the fbi's perspective and obviously
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i anticipate as we are now hearing that this will take political overtures. >> okay. thank you so much. appreciate your time. coming up, last night we all held our breaths while police closed in on dzhokhar tsarnaev. we'll have more details on the hu hunt and we will go live to fenway where neil diamond's voice is heard every home game. today fans got neil diamond in person. we'll show you the moving strib butte next. ♪
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welcome back to the lead. the boston red sox have been
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claimed by you all of new england. today for a little while, the whole country. everyone the bronx shared them. >> we will run another marathon. one bigger and better than ever. we are one. we are boston. we are strong. we are boston strong. >> the red sox and tens of thousands of fans returned to fenway park this afternoon for the first time since the bombings. their game against the kansas city royals was postponed last night due to that lockdown and the ongoing manhunt for the bombing suspect. today they wore special uniforms as a tribute to the city they have called home for more than 100 years. their home white said boston on the front rather than red sox.
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those whites will be auctioned off later to support the one fund for bombing victims. the ceremonies today included very emotional moments of silence for the four lives that were lost during this week-long reign of terror. martin richard, krystle campbell, lingzi lu, and matt collier. patterson, an off duty firefighter, saved the life of a young boy at the finish line. and dick hoyt has run the marathon every year since 1981 while pushing his quaddriplegic son in a wheelchair. all shared in the honor of throwing out the ceremonial first pitches. >> it's time for our ceremonial first pitch.
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>> and in what has now become a boston sports tradition, the entire crowd sang the national anthem in unison. ♪ and the rockets red glare the bombs bursting in air ♪ >> then one of the greatest red sox ever, david ortiz, delivered a pep talk that may end up on a t-shirt tomorrow. >> this is [ bleep ] city. and nobody going to -- >> and finally, in the eighth, no game at fenway would be complete without neil diamond. this time not just on the p.a., they got him in person.
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>> usa, usa, usa! >> boston just hit a three run homer to go on top. and poppy harlow is live at historic fenway park. poppy, tell us about today's ceremony. >> reporter: you know, you stole my lead there. as you were talking, neil diamond must have been the good luck charm because they scored a three run homer, 4-2 boston, turning this game around. what a day here in boston. all day, it's palpable the turn around the city is feeling. boston red sox fans pouring into fenway park behind me. chanting usa, usa after they were surprised to see neil diamond take the field and sink "sweet caroline" at the bottom of the eighth. a few folks i talked to here, i said how big a red sox fan are you. he pulls off his shirt, shows me his red sox tattoo and said we have to show sox pride, we have to show boston pride, we have to
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show country pride. that is why we are here. i talked to some police officers outside although they said we are really tired from the week this has been, so many people are cominging up to us and saying thank you, thank you for what you do. right when they said that, four guys walked by and said thank you to the officers. so that's just a sense of what you're feeling here. people could not be more excited. and like i've been saying all day, even some royals fans might be red sox fans today, jake. >> i think it's fair to say that today we're all red sox fans. the manhunt may be over, but the race is on to find a motive in the boston terrorist attacks. we're learning more about the suspects, their lives you can and what made them attack innocent bystanders. stay with us for the latest in the investigation. we'll be right back. matt's brakes didn't sound right... ...so i brought my car to mike at meineke...
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it's a much calmer day to the relief of the people here who were living in a constant state of tension ever bombs went off on monday. at this hour, dzhokhar tsarnaev is in custody. they may charge him while he's still in the hospital listed in serious condition. the fbi is not commenting on whether he's willing to answer questions or even able to do so. a tip in the suburb of watertown led police to him where they found the 19-year-old hiding in a dry docked boat under a tarp. he did not come quietly. gunfire erupted, more than 20 shots were fired. police called out to the suspect commanding him to surrender, ultimately rushing the boat and taking him alive. his brother, 16-year-old tamerlan tsarnaev, did not live to answer for his alleged crimes. he died after a hootout with police early friday morning.
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at the scene, police found handguns, a rifle, and at least six bombs, three of which had explod exploded. early indications are that these two acted alone, but we're still learning so much about what drove them to violence. >> just a regular normal kid, if you will. >> he came off like any other high school kid. >> two mondays ago he seemed fine. >> but just one monday ago, the tsarnaev brothers began to unravel. tamerlan and dzhokhar allegedly killed four people this week and maimed scores more. here is what we know about them now. nearly a decade before monday's bombings, the brothers and their family, mom, dad and two sisters, came to the u.s. from dagestan. >> my youngest was raised in america and my oldest son is
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really, really proper in our house. >> but tamerlan killed during a shoot-out very early friday morning would never live to become a naturalized citizen here. >> there are 2525 applicants for naturalization present here today. >> his younger brother, dzhokhar, now in federal custody, gained his u.s. citizenship last year on september 11th to be exact. a decade in america already, i want out, said a tweet from an account registered to him. but friends say the umass dart mouth student appeared to live a content life. >> he was a quiet guy. >> a bad driver, but that's pretty much it. >> as late as thursday afternoon, this week, the same day the fbi released his photograph, dzhokhar was on campus and attending classes. even going to parties in the dorms according to a university official. shockingly normal behavior for a college student who raised few flags.
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>> no signs of what you would see from a terrorist profile. not a loner. he had a good group of friends. >> tamerlan, however, had a profile of a different sort. on its website, the fbi says it received information from a foreign country in 2011 that in the fbi's words he was a follower of radical islam and a strong believer and that he had changed drastically since 2010. we now know that country was russia. and at russia's request, the fbi interviewed tamerlan but apparently found no cause for concern. >> got involved in the religion, you know, religious politics five years ago. so he started following his own religious aspects and he never told me that he would be like on the side of jihad. he was counseled for fbi like
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for three, five years. they knew what my son was doing. >> the as entiring boxer was arrested in 2009 for domestic abuse. in the years following, he quit school, wed a woman named katherine russell, and became a father. his wife's family releasing this statement, our daughter has lost her husband today, the father of her child. we cannot begin to comprehend how this horrible tragedy occurred. in the aftermath of the patriots day horror, we know that we never really knew tamerlan tsarnaev. his uncle also in shock. >> he decided to take lifes of innocent people, hurt innocent people. i may believe he's pabeen full evil. he turned to be evil. there is -- even if there is speculation that there was some political views, no, there were no political views. i say there were no political based on what i know about him.
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and i know about that family. >> tamerlan and dzhokhar's russian father tells cnn he will fly to the u.s. in response to his younger son's capture. >> are you going to america? >> yes. >> and despite his astonishment, family is still family. and it seems the 19-year-old who police say did the unthinkable will still get help from his uncle. >> first i'll try to help by seeking forgiveness from those who he put in suffer. and anything else that he would need. >> coming up, dzhokhar tsarnaev might be the most hated person in america right now, but he is still innocent until approach guilty. what will a federal trial look like? n come between us and what we love. so if you're one of them people who gets heartburn and then treats day after day... block the acid with prilosec otc and don't get heartburn in the first place! [ male announcer ] one pill each morning. 24 hours. zero heartburn.
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welcome back. i'm jake tapper live in boston. one of the most intense and
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frightening manhunts in our nation's history ended last night in a hail of flash bangs, bullets and laser scopes. in someone's backyard in watertown, just about eight miles that way. when police finally tracked down the terror suspect in a boat that wasn't in the water. a short time ago, police released these brand new thermal images showing the body outline of the suspect cowering inside the boat. tom foreman is in the studio to recreate the moments when we all held our breath. >> these stunning images really have a testament to the tenacity and technology that authorities brought to bear here. remember, all day long, they had been closing in on watertown trying to set up a core done around it, trying to limit the ability of this young man to get out.done around it, trying to limit the ability of this young man to get out. around 7 ouk, a man walks in his backyard and he see as torn tarp on his boat, some blood on that, looks inside, see as body, calls the police and suddenly
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thousands of officers are racing to the area setting up a cordon around this and then they're calling in the technology, a thermal imaging helicopter. what it means, a helicopter flies around just like this model is and it's casting a beam down to the ground that is reading anything that is warm coming off the ground. an image of anything, including a bed. so you see the body trailer there in the backyard. this is what they got from doing that. as they flew in, they saw, yes, there was someone inside this boat and he was moving around. a gunfight broke out between the officers and the man inside the boat. he was hit two more times. they threw in flash bang agree n grenades and then everything grew quiet. so that was the moment they brought in a little bit more technology. it was basically a robot. they brought in a robotic armed vehicle that could reach in and tear away some of the fabric, give them a better view while
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negotiators up in the house on the second floor were yelling out a bull horn to this guy to say that he needs to surrender. so all of this is going on, they're waiting to see what's going to happen. and time is passing. you're getting closer to dark. so then finally they reach the point at which they bring in their thermal imaging again. remember, they don't have lights for this. they can do it in the dark. and this is what they see now. they see the suspect is collapsed essentially. those are his feet at this end. he is as authorities would later say basically unable to offer anymore resistance at this point. they make him stand up at the edge of the boat, raise his clothing and show that he has no weapons or explosives on him, and then after this massive collection of technology, tenacity and effort has been closing in for hours and hours, they finally make the arrest they're after. >> tom foreman, thank you. i want to bring in congressman
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cap juana. you represent about 75% of the city. every mile of the marathon cambridge, you used to represent watertown. just tell us about this wrenching week and how the people of boston are doing now. >> we're starting to heal. starting to bring it back together. people are anxious to bring it back together. that's why we're looking forward to so many sporting events, find some semblance of normal city again. we all know we have a lot of people who are still hurt, a lot of families still wrenched apart and we'll spend an awful lot of time trying to help them to the best 6 of our ability. >> we're all glad the situation appears to be over. there are a lot of questions about the fbi having been told about the older brother. the russians reached out to look into this guy, he's an extremist, they did an interview and didn't follow up after he spent six months in chechnya. is this something you want to hear more answers about?
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>> there are a lot of questions we'll get to. first we had to capture the other one and make sure things are settled and then we'll start asking all the questions. i'm sure the fbi will want to ask those questions of themselves, as well. >> and lastly, i've been talking to people, i was in boston common earlier. people are eager to heal and get back to normal, but there is also an acknowledgement that there is going to be a little bit more -- people will be more on guard. the city even if it's not going to be a city on edge anymore, people will be a little bit more suspicious looking around. ultimately is that something you're concerned about? no not really. that's normal. don't for get boston was deeply involved in 9/11, as well. we lost our locals, as well. we went through this before. we'll go through again probably some day. i hope not, but probably. we're not used to it. you never get used to it, but we'll get through it and we'll get back to normal at this time. it will take some time to do that and that's one of the processes we'll go through.
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>> and the last question i have for you, we hear a lot about whenever there are all these joint operations and you have boston police, watertown police, the fbi, local officials, federal officials, everybody working that there are a lot of people stepping on each other. i know it's vogue to say everybody works seamlessly, but from your van ttage point what could be improved? >> from what i saw, everybody reasonably worked together. these things get thrown together quickly and you can't expect perfection. i actually think they worked very well together given the realities of the situation. the fact that so many police officers and law enforcement people were brought together so quickly, that though they had training, training is one thing, it's another thing playing a serious game right then and there where time is of the essence. so many rumor, so many leads to
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follow. i think they did a pretty good job. >> and i know you are a proud progressive. are you concerned at all that there was a public safety exemption invoked before tsarnaev was read his miranda rights. >> >> not not at all. he'll be entitled to his american rights and i think if we don't do that, we become less of ourselves. we are americans. we have beauties in this system. we some problems in the system. i think if we do anything other than embrace what america is all about, then the terrorist would have won and i think that is the absolute wrong thing to do. >> congressman, thanks so much. good to see you. appreciate it. we know now that 19-year-old dzhokhar tsarnaev will face federal terrorism charges and with all the photographs and video, is the case a slam dunk for prosecutors? we'll look into that next. i have low testosterone. there, i said it.
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welcome back. we're all boston red sox fans today. and the red sox just beat the royals 4-3. i'm jake tapper live in boston.
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they got him alive, barely, and now the government is trying to figure out how to bring justice to dzhokhar tsarnaev. legal questions started right away with the decision to hold off on reading him his miranda rights. joining me now is beth wilkinson, former prosecutor, who helped accepted timothy mcveigh to the death penalty. thanks for joining us. why does the miranda issue matter? >> it really matters on whether there will be able to determine if there is other further threats and whether there will be able to prosecute him in federal court. and as soon as they mirandize him and give him the right to a lawyer, they know they can use those statements against him in court. if they don't do that, they will have a very tough time using any evidence they collect from him before that time against him in a federal courtroom. >> put yourself in the shoes of the obama administration. they want to know as much as they can about how this happened so as to not make -- make sure
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it doesn't happen again. if he lawyers up, if he is read his miranda rights, he probably will be advised not to cooperate and not to say anything. isn't it just to play devil's advocate in the best interests of the nation to withhold on doing that for a second and gets a much information as they can? >> well, it's a very tough decision, but really the exception they're using is the public safety exception and that's to protect the rest of us, to make sure there aren't any accomplices, any other direct and immediate threats. but after that, it is in the interests of the country to be able to ross cuku prosecute him public courtroom and have people understand what happened. so it is important for the administration and justice department and fbi to give him hir miranda right so is they can use all the evidence against him. there will be many victims and survivors who feel it is important to have that moment in court to try to understand what happened in this horrific
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situation. >> and lastly, beth, this isn't the first time we've seen this happen with a terror suspect. dzhokhar tsarnaev is a naturalized u.s. citizen. will that affect where he's tried, whether it's a criminal court or military try bun tribu? >> i think the government will have a strong interest in having him prosecuted in a federal court and i think it will be best for everyone for him to be in a federal courtroom. >> you helped get the death penalty for timothy mcveigh. do you think prosecutors will do the same thing here? >> we don't know all of the evidence at this point. but what we did know, surely underscores this was a planned premeditated terrorist event. and with that, it seems very likely that the federal government would ask for the death penalty. >> all right. beth wilkinson, thank you so much for joining us. appreciate it. were there warning signs the 26-year-old tamerlan tsarnaev
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i'm jake at that pointer in boston for a special saturday eggs did of "the lead." the manhunt is over but the frantic search for answers is just the beginning. laura sullivan is a reporter for national public radio and joins me live from washington. you have been learning about the older suspect, tamerlan tsarnaev, spoke with three women who knew him in college, rule
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weird his then-girlfriend who became his wife. what did had he say about tamerlan tsarnaev? >> they all met freshman year. they say that katherine russell, their roommate, met him at a bar and from the very beginning, they never liked him. they thought he was very controlling. they described him as manipulative of her. and they said that he had a real violent streak that really troubled them for a long time them would say sometimes he had the ability to fly into a rage, that he would hang out with them and party and he would smoke and drink in the beginning and then all of that changed. >> the fbi interviewed him in 2011 because the russian fsb, which is the succeeding organization to the kgb, they were concerned that he might be an extremist, an islamic extremist and might have ties to a terrorist network. it doesn't sound like they really got to the bottom of it because you're reporting that maybe in 2008, 2009 is when he
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became something of an extremist and seemed, according to your reporting, to think that islam was under attack? >> exactly. so, it was about 2008, 2009 when these women say they saw tamerlan begin to change and he stopped going out with them, he stopped drinking, he stopped smoking. and he, at that point, said to katherine russell that she also had to become a muslim, join islam and that she had to start covering herself and she did that they had a tumultuous relationship. but they felt he expressed what they called extremist point of views, he was angry with the american government and he felt that islam was under attack. they were deeply worried about katherine. they had an up and down relationship and we know that in 2009, he was arrested for domestic assault and battery
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charge. that was actually on a different woman than katherine. he had another girlfriend at the time is what the roommates were saying, but they were deeply worried about katherine for a long time and they still are. >> laura sullivan, great reporting, congratulations on the big scoop. we will have you on the show again soon. coming up next, boston strong, those two words have become the rallying cry, not just of a city, but of a nation, after a terrifying day spent holed up in homes throughout the boston region. residents are now out and breathing easy again. we will have more on that next. ♪ if loving you is wrong ♪ i don't wanna be right [ record scratch ] what?! it's not bad for you. it just tastes that way. [ female announcer ] honey nut cheerios cereal -- heart-healthy, whole grain oats. you can't go wrong loving it.
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need to hear everybody singing. are you ready?
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♪ sweet caroline ♪ good times never seem so good ♪ ♪ so good, so good, so good ♪ i've been inclined to believe they never would ♪ yes! thank you! thank you! >> the man himself, neil diamond, in the flesh, singing "sweet caroline" at fenway park today. by the way, the red sox beat the royals, 4-3. >> it's the one phrase that says it all this week, boston strong. those words could not ring out any louder than in the cathedral of boston, also known as fenway park. >> today, boston tried to get back to normal. this afternoon's red sox game rescheduled because of the manhunt was a chance for the toy
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is co-- for the city to come together and boston common was busy again, families strolled, ready to have their city back after the week of terror. were you angry? >> absolutely angry. scared for the kids, haven't told them about it or anything but definitely angered. >> reporter: as her daughter played at the water's edge, this mother said she could finally exhale. >> it's been terrifying. i mean, it's definitely, i don't know, an amazing experience to just feel scared in your own city, in your own backyard. so, this is where we live. and our home. so it's very vulnerable feeling. i'm thankful that we now can get out of the house and experience a little bit of sunshine because yesterday, it was very much a harrowing day. >> reporter: we stopped eric kay on his run, the first he had made since he was stopped just short of the marathon's finish line on monday. >> there at the finish line.
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thankfully, they are all okay but i thought like this was the only way to reclaim in some cathartic way running for the community and city. >> reporter: while the sense of anxiety here is abating, boston will be changed forever by what happened on its streets this week. last night, locals burst onto the streets to cheer for the police who brought an end to the manhunt. but the light of day brings the stark reminder that while one suspect is dead and the other is in custody, the violence they left in their wake, that remains. four dead and dozens more wounded, with injuries they will live with forever. the makeshift memorial here a sort of prayer for them and the city to remain boston strong. that's it for me and this special edition of "the lead" live in boston.